Who am I? What am I? Where am I? Where am I headed to? I really don't know. RNFI. Really No F**king Idea. A cynic, an idealist, a person with ideas, but NATO. Am I? I really don't know. RNFI. Really No F**king Idea.

Saturday, November 26, 2005

If a tree falls...

Jasmi said in response to my earlier post:
"you are kidding me. thats totally avoiding the question of fairness, of justice altogether. i hate to say this.. but it is an utterly shameful suggestion."

but what is fair? what is just? are these just not mere philosophical constructs?

then let me give you another philosophical construct (or question rather): if a tree falls in a forest and there's no one there to witness it fall, did it fall?

similarly, even if there exists the death penalty, but no one commits a crime that permits the death penalty, then does the death penalty exist?

there is no shame, no fairness, no justice, no right, no wrong, no good, no evil. there just is.

philosophical statements aside. why is it a shameful to suggest that we create a society/world where no one trafficks drugs or murders other people? i'd say it's a pretty noble aim for anyone foolish enough to attempt.

imagine a world where everyone values the life of everyone else such that no one wishes to kill another person, imagine a reality so wonderful that no one needs to take drugs to escape from. imagine also that this is a world where there is also no want, no suffering?

in such a world, it wouldn't matter even if, on paper, there is the death penalty because it will not be invoked and so for all intents and purposes, the death penalty would not exist. in fact, in such a world, the entire penal code could demand death penalty for the smallest infringement on paper, but might as well, for all intents and purposes, exist. because no one would break the law, because everyone would be able to do the right thing.

aren't we all trying to create such a world? a better world?

but until we suceed, it does matter what the penal code is. it does matter that the death penalty exists on paper because it is invoked and hence the death penalty does take on more aspects of existence.

so until that day when we suceed in creating such an ideal world, it is a delicate balance having sufficient carrots and sticks to ensure that people do abide by the Law. for that matter, it is important to come up with appropriate laws.

i don't think that Singapore has found that balance. in fact, i don't think any country has found that balance. and so we tweak it here and there, groping in the dark, almost.

2 Comments:

Blogger jasmi said...

but the fact is that there is a possiblity that it will be invoked and when it involves taking away a persons life, we had better be sure that its the right and fair thing to do. unless you feel that while we are trying to find a balance that our government refuses to find, we'll let this possibly unfair (some are undecided) taking of lives go on... well good for you then. have a good night's sleep.

12:33 AM

 
Blogger aeiou said...

Moral nihilism (there is no right or wrong) leads us to be unable to condemn Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Milosevic, Saddam Hussein and perpetrators of crimes against humanity.

There is at least one thing that is universally regarded as morally wrong and depraved: to torture a baby for fun. There are many others as well.

The death penalty still exists even if no one commits a crime that warrants its application. I don't see the point of your example about the tree falling--the fact of the tree's falling exists regardless of whether there were any witnesses to it, just as the earth has existed without life (humans or otherwise, which could see) for at least a billion years.

The "better world" that you're thinking of is really a synonym for "ideal world", or Utopia. Alas the greatest human tragedies in history came about because tyrants (and their followers) were under the illusion that Utopia exists and is attainable (e.g. Hitler's Third Reich--a nation of the super-race of the Aryans). We can make a better world through education and upholding certain fundamental principles respecting human dignity and rights. We just cannot make an ideal world. It doesn't exist.

2:05 AM

 

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